Conferences and colloquies

Tuesday 25 January 2000 at 3 p.m.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A PROVISIONAL VERSION OF THE REPORT OF  THE DEBATE OF 25 JANUARY 2000 AT 3 P.M WHICH MAY STILL BE CORRECTED BY THE SPEAKERS


In this report:

1. Speeches in English are reported in full.

2. Speeches in other languages are summarised.

3. Speeches in German and Italian are reproduced in full in a separate document.

Corrections should be handed in at Room 1059A not later than 24 hours after the report has been circulated.


ADDENDUM

 

 

 

The following questions were not reached and have therefore been answered in written form (questions and replies not delivered and therefore unavailable to the Assembly during the debate)

    

 

CORRIGENDUM

The following text should be inserted at the beginning of page 60. of AS (2000) CR 3

 

"Question No. 12:

 

Mr Jaskierna,

 

Noting that during its last part-session, in September 1999, the Parliamentary Assembly elected Mr Gil-Robles as the first Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe; in its opinion on the draft terms of reference, the Assembly recommended that the necessary resources be put at the disposal of the Commissioner;

 

Considering that if this were not the case, the setting up of this function would amount to a waste of money and energy;

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

If he could inform the Assembly about the resources which will be put at the disposal of the Commissioner in 2000."

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

The Committee of Ministers fully subscribes to the Assembly's view, already implied in Opinion No. 210 (1998) that it would not have been worthwhile either for the Committee to create, or for the Assembly to elect the Commissioner, unless his office had the resources it needed.

 

I can therefore report that the Secretary General has already nominated a senior official to the post of the head of the Commissioner's Office, and is in the process of finding the necessary administrators and supporting staff through redeployment of existing personnel whilst respecting the need to take account of the priorities for the Organisation as a whole.

 

If Mr Jaskierna was thinking of asking me, as Chairman of Committee of Ministers, whether I consider that the human resources currently available to the Commissioner are adequate considering the importance we attach to his function, I should like to reply that I do not.

 

It is greatly to the credit of Mr Gil-Robles and his staff that it proved possible for the Commissioner to carry out his first, essential activity - I am referring to his visit to Moscow and the northern Caucasus which I mentioned earlier - with the limited resources available to him.

 

Concerning the financial resources at the Commissioner's disposal, I should like to inform the Assembly that, in the Budget for 2000 adopted last December, the Commissioner's allocation was increased by more than 76 000 Euro as compared with the initial proposal.

 

The Committee of Ministers will keep under review the resources available for the Commissioner.

 

 

 

"Question No. 14:

 

Mr Clerfayt,

 

Noting that the Committee of Ministers has been seized by the problem posed under the European Convention on Human Rights by the unreasonably lengthy proceedings before the Italian courts for more than ten years and that still the number of complaints and violations show no stable sign of decreasing and that the reforms presented to the Committee of Ministers do not, accordingly, appear to have the necessary efficiency,

 

Observing that the continuation of this situation prevents the new Court from adequately following up new complaints regarding other violations of the democratic order protected by the Council of Europe through the European Convention on Human Rights,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

What action it intends to take to ensure that this intolerable situation ceases."

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

The member’s question raises a very important problem and the anxiety he feels is certainly shared both by the Committee of Ministers and by the Court.

 

In a resolution adopted in July 1997, the Committee of Ministers established that the number of violations concerning the length of proceedings in Italy had not gone down, despite measures adopted in 1995, including in particular the recruitment of nearly 5 000 Justices of the Peace. It was therefore obliged to recall that excessive slowness of justice represented an important danger for the respect of the rule of law. It therefore decided to keep the relevant cases on its agenda until certain new reforms announced by the Italian authorities had been implemented.

 

At the present time, the implementation of these reforms - listed in the appendix to the resolution I have just mentioned - is continuing under the supervision of the Committee of Ministers. In July 1999, the Committee of Ministers adopted two interim resolutions concerning respectively administrative and civil justice. It took note of certain new initiatives by the Italian authorities and an information indicating an improvement in the efficiency of the courts.

 

The Committee of Ministers took note of this information with satisfaction but none the less warned that important problems remained to be solved and encouraged the Italian authorities to redouble their efforts.

 

The concrete effect of these new measures, which should all be enforced by then, will be examined in July 2000.

 

On the basis of the results found, the Committee of Ministers will decide, under the Italian presidency, what action to take.

 

 

"Question No. 15:

 

Mr Goulet,

 

In view of the tragic events of the last few weeks and the black tide caused by the Erika shipwreck, which appeal to our environmental consciousness and urge immediate action in an effort to head off risks which, as everyone knows, it will not be possible to control absolutely;

 

Recalling the Amoco Cadiz accident whose effects on the ecosystem still linger, and considering the further oil spill sullying the French coasts as yet another looms in the sea of Marmara;

 

Observing that the introduction of international oil industry compensation arrangements (Fipol international oil pollution compensation funds), which can disburse up to FF 1.2 billion for anti-pollution measures, has diverted politicians from their true responsibilities since, in their concern for redress of the damage caused by disasters, they fail to take remedial and preventive action against the causes;

 

Considering the urgency of measures to prohibit and regulate certain practices and to identify clearly the line of responsibility,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

Whether he can give an assurance that the Committee of Ministers will take action as a matter of urgency to:

 

i. list the relevant legislation in the member states;

 

ii. initiate encounters with all the main parties directly concerned in order to obtain their suggestions;

 

iii. urge member states to lose no time in taking appropriate measures to prohibit certain practices such as the use of vessels flying flags of convenience.

 

 

Question No. 16:

 

Mr Akçali,

 

Noting that following the two recent alarming events of oil spill off the French coast and in the sea of Marmara, the Committee on the Environment, Regional Planning and Local Authorities is concerned by the lack of action on behalf of the European governments to implement the international legal instruments fully - such as the Marpol, Oslo and Paris conventions and to enforce the respect of the safety norms established by the International Maritime Organisation (IMO);

 

Noting that to this regard, the Parliamentary Assembly made some concrete proposals to the Committee of Ministers on several occasions in the past, for example:

 

- Recommendation 1079 (1988) on Protection of the North Sea against pollution

 

- Recommendation 1132 (1990) on Protection of the North Sea and the Atlantic Seaboard

 

- Recommendation 1227 (1993) on Pollution of the Seas;

 

To ask, on behalf of the Committee on the Environment, Regional Planning and Local Authorities, the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

What action has been taken in response to the above mentioned recommendations.

 

 

Question No. 17:

 

Mr Evin,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

What initiatives the Committee of Ministers intends to take to strengthen the regulation of maritime transport and to ensure that such regulation is applied, so as to avoid an ecological disaster arising from oil pollution."

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

Oil pollution is a major threat to all our ecosystems. Much remains to be done to protect our coasts. At present, the solution of common problems suffers from unco-ordinated policies at national, regional and local levels. The work of the Parliamentary Assembly in this area is, therefore, to be commended.

 

At the intergovernmental level, the Committee of Ministers has endorsed the Pan-European Biological and Landscape Diversity Strategy supported by 55 coastal states at the ministerial conference in Sofia in 1995. The Council of Europe was made responsible for Action Theme No. 5 on coastal and marine ecosystems. In 1999, the Committee of Ministers noted that the Council of Europe Model Law on Sustainable Management of Coastal Zones and the European Code of Conduct for Coastal Zones were "a source of inspiration for national legislation and practice" and forwarded them to their governments.

 

The Council of Europe has also at its disposal two major legal instruments for environmental protection: the Convention on Civil Liability for Damage Resulting from Activities Dangerous to the Environment, opened for signature in June 1993, which counts nine signatories, and the Convention on the Protection of the Environment through Criminal Law, opened for signature in November 1998, which counts eleven signatories.

 

The first convention aims at ensuring adequate compensation for damage resulting from activities dangerous to the environment. It is supplemented by the second convention, which recognises that environmental violations with serious consequences must be established as criminal offences.

 

Recently, the Council of Europe undertook a study called "Examples and possibilities for transfrontier co-operation between territorial communities or authorities in maritime coastal zones". This resulted in the formulation of strategies for the integrated management of coastal zones which could serve as useful guidelines for territorial authorities engaged in transfrontier co-operation activities. The examples of co-operation activities concern five seas, namely: the Baltic Sea, the Black Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, the North Sea and the North Atlantic.

 

What is especially useful in this work is a list of legal assistance the Council of Europe can provide to territorial communities or authorities across coastal zones in setting up transfrontier co-operation.

 

On the basis of these texts, I hope action will be taken in the near future to overcome the ecological disasters which have been described by the distinguished parliamentarians today.

 

 

"Question No. 18:

 

Mr Rodeghiero,

 

Noting that since 11 October 1999 there has been no news of
Mr Nerio Campagnolo, an Italian national born in S. Giorgio in Bosco (Padua province) who disappeared together with his vehicle at Miculov (Czech Republic), the vehicle having been found later;

 

Considering that, according to the information released by the press, there are credible reasons to suppose that Mr Campagnolo has been the victim of a criminal organisation specialising in armed robbery committed against road transport drivers with intent to re-sell the stolen vehicles; certain drivers having subsequently been found dead;

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers:

 

Whether he is aware of the aforementioned case or whether he can rapidly supply information about it, and what action has been taken by the Czech authorities to guarantee the safety of persons transiting though the Czech Republic, in the light of its undertakings as a Council of Europe member state."

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

I must say that I have not been informed of the situation described in this question, ie the disappearance of Mr Campagnolo in the Czech Republic, which, according to the distinguished member, may well be of a criminal nature.

 

I am convinced that the authorities of the country in question, as well as other European governments, are aware of the proportions which the problem of certain forms of violence against road hauliers in Europe have reached and that they are doing what they can to prevent such violence.

 

 

"Question No. 19:

 

Mr López Henares,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

What is the nature of the action taken by the Committee of Ministers to give effect to the recommendations which the Assembly adopted in September 1999 on anti-terrorism measures and international co-operation."

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

I fully accept the point of this question on the action taken on Assembly Recommendation 1426 on European democracies facing up to terrorism. Terrorism has just struck another severe blow in Spain and I wish, on behalf of the Committee of Ministers, to express once more our sympathy with the victims and their families, our dismay at this brutal attack and our strongest condemnation of any recourse to violence to further a political cause. As I myself come from a country that has suffered from violence, I understand the feelings expressed by the member.

 

The recommendation is extremely dense and contains no less than twelve proposals regarding the need to amend the two European conventions in force, draft further conventions and foster international co-operation on a European and worldwide scale in extremely sensitive domains involving the police and justice.

 

This text is currently being carefully studied by governmental experts on the European Committee on Crime Problems.

 

Our Deputies should be in a position to examine these issues in the near future.

 

 

"Question No. 20:

 

 

Lord Judd,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

If he is satisfied with the record of attendance by Ministers themselves rather by their representatives at the Committee of Ministers and whether records of attendance could in future be made available."   

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

Those who do attend meetings are never satisfied with those who do not, and of late, even if I understand the reasons, I cannot say I have been particularly satisfied. I have before me a graph of attendance since 1984 and I shall be glad to make it available to members of the Assembly. The same graph was communicated to the Deputies at the time of their examination of the recommendations of the Committee of Wise Persons. I see no reason why the line of the graph cannot be continued in the future and made available to you.

 

 

"Question No. 21:

 

Mr Schreiner,

 

Noting the Organisation's zero budgetary growth in real terms, we can consider ourselves comparatively well satisfied in managing to secure a slight increase of
167 700 Euro (about FF1 100 100 ) in our budget,

 

Considering that this will enable us to continue the activities under the Assembly's programme of co-operation and monitoring of commitments, which enable us to strengthen the values expounded and upheld by our Organisation;

 

Observing that the presence on the ground and the implementation of specific activities within the Council of Europe can only be developed and realised if the Organisation has fit financial resources to carry through the activities undertaken;

 

Noting, alas, that yet again we are dissatisfied with the dearth of practical proposals in staff matters;

Considering that the persistence of such decisions is detrimental to the regular career development of deserving staff members, as the continuation of a policy liable to disrupt harmonious working relations has a de-motivating effect on the Secretariat and may before long cause serious malfunctions in the Organisation,

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

Which measures the Committee of Ministers will adopt for the concurrent application of the recommendations in the "Optimum Report" (redeployment; staff mobility) and of Resolution 92 (28) (on special measures relating to the termination of service of certain staff members), in compliance with the recommendations of the Committee of Wise Persons (competent, efficient, mobile staff)."

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

The Committee of Ministers examined carefully the principle recommendations contained in the final report of the Committee of Wise Persons concerning the structures of the Secretariat, management of programmes and budgetary management. It considered them to be fundamental objectives with far-reaching implications but needed further elaboration. With this in mind, the Secretary General was asked to draw up detailed proposals. External expertise was recruited to help to undertake an overall review of human resources. This project, entitled Optimum, is due to report shortly to the Deputies. They will consider the specific recommendations and an overall plan for the management of human resource requirements.

 

At their next meeting, the Deputies will resume consideration of the Secretary General’s proposals for the implementation of the provisions of the existing staff regulations and Resolution (92) 28 concerning the compensation of permanent staff for loss of employment or termination of service.

 

Obviously, there is a link between the two operations. I cannot forecast, at this stage, the outcome of the deliberations.

 

 

"Question No. 22:

 

 

Mrs Isohookana-Asunmaa,

 

Noting that the amending protocol to the European Convention on Transfrontier Television should enter into force as soon as possible to ensure a coherent regulatory regime for transfrontier television services in Europe;

 

Observing that however, although most countries have launched the necessary ratification procedure, only two states have so far accepted the protocol ; there is therefore a growing risk of the protocol not entering into force by the deadline of 1 October 2000;

 

To ask the Chairman of the Committee of Ministers,

 

What measures have been undertaken to ensure that this deadline will be met.

 

 

Reply by Mr David Andrews on behalf of the Committee of Ministers:

 

I should like to thank the member for her question on the entry into force of the amending protocol to the European Convention on Transfrontier Television. Yes, I am afraid there is a risk that the deadline of 1 October 2000 specified in Article 29 of the amending protocol will not be respected. The reason for this is the relatively short time given for the necessary ratification procedure. But I shall draw the attention of my colleagues to the need for urgency. The deadline should, if at all possible, be respected.

 

 

     
© PACE | Disclaimer | © Photo credit | Address | Contact : webmaster.assembly@coe.int